Comments on: Massive, widespread revolt on Digg http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/ social capital, trust agents, all that jazz Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:27:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: David Jacobs http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-98417 David Jacobs Fri, 04 May 2007 19:22:24 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-98417 An interesting experiment in social media to be sure. Also a lesson for business; small things can turn into huge shit storms in a matter of hours, creating more trouble than you ever imagined. What's that line from Star Wars? The tighter your grip becomes, the more what you want slips through your fingers. You can't do business on the Net with a sledgehammer, it's more like Akido. An interesting experiment in social media to be sure. Also a lesson for business; small things can turn into huge shit storms in a matter of hours, creating more trouble than you ever imagined. What’s that line from Star Wars? The tighter your grip becomes, the more what you want slips through your fingers. You can’t do business on the Net with a sledgehammer, it’s more like Akido.

]]> By: Julien http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97757 Julien Wed, 02 May 2007 23:44:14 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97757 le screenshot is now fixed le screenshot is now fixed

]]> By: Steve http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97702 Steve Wed, 02 May 2007 19:27:56 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97702 I tend to agree with Patrick. The fact of the matter is, though I may not like any part of DRM, Digg does have the right to remove something that may be illegal. I don't have to like it, but it is within their rights. And the fact that the "mob" stepped in and took control is nothing new, exciting or ground breaking. It's called "mob rules". It is a concept that has spawned the often used phrase: "A person is smart, but people are stupid." Was the mob right this time? Well legally speaking, in the US at this point in time, the DMCA and other such draconian legislation makes the mob legally wrong. They might be ethically right, but that is not what Digg is concerned with. We'll have to see how it plays out... I tend to agree with Patrick. The fact of the matter is, though I may not like any part of DRM, Digg does have the right to remove something that may be illegal. I don’t have to like it, but it is within their rights.

And the fact that the “mob” stepped in and took control is nothing new, exciting or ground breaking. It’s called “mob rules”. It is a concept that has spawned the often used phrase: “A person is smart, but people are stupid.”

Was the mob right this time? Well legally speaking, in the US at this point in time, the DMCA and other such draconian legislation makes the mob legally wrong. They might be ethically right, but that is not what Digg is concerned with.

We’ll have to see how it plays out…

]]> By: Steve http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97696 Steve Wed, 02 May 2007 18:59:35 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97696 I prefer the DeCSS printed t-shirts rebellion of '99. Though you actually had to work a little harder than clicking on a Digg link to show your support. If only they could make voting as easy as Digging a story -- Young people might start caring about like... politics and stuff. I prefer the DeCSS printed t-shirts rebellion of ’99. Though you actually had to work a little harder than clicking on a Digg link to show your support. If only they could make voting as easy as Digging a story — Young people might start caring about like… politics and stuff.

]]> By: Patrick http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97694 Patrick Wed, 02 May 2007 18:53:44 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97694 Julien, that comment is indeed much more clear headed, thx for the link. However, not to defend digg, who could have handled that -- and banning in general -- much better but I've yet to see an example of a deleted story that should have stayed there and wasn't deleted for a good policy/legal reason. People keep mixing up democracy and free speech with "I can do or say whatever the hell I please". It's not quite the same thing. Respecting the rules of where/on what site / in which context you are is also important. The fact that someone enforces those rules does not mean they are infringing on your rights. Sometimes they are, but it's not a direct no grey area relation. Julien, that comment is indeed much more clear headed, thx for the link.

However, not to defend digg, who could have handled that — and banning in general — much better but I’ve yet to see an example of a deleted story that should have stayed there and wasn’t deleted for a good policy/legal reason.

People keep mixing up democracy and free speech with “I can do or say whatever the hell I please”. It’s not quite the same thing. Respecting the rules of where/on what site / in which context you are is also important. The fact that someone enforces those rules does not mean they are infringing on your rights. Sometimes they are, but it’s not a direct no grey area relation.

]]> By: Moses http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97642 Moses Wed, 02 May 2007 14:51:37 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97642 I think this moment will be remembered as the death knell of "security through obscurity." You'd be surprised how often historic moments in history started out as juvenile spats. The Boston Tea Party was most likely a bunch of drunken louts who decided to "give 'em what for" and marched straight from the pub. Speaking of juveniles, have you seen <a href="http://tinyurl.com/32xh5h" rel="nofollow">this myspace page</a> ? There's a dozen more like it. I expect the same thing is happening on facebook, friendster, et al. I think this moment will be remembered as the death knell of “security through obscurity.”

You’d be surprised how often historic moments in history started out as juvenile spats. The Boston Tea Party was most likely a bunch of drunken louts who decided to “give ‘em what for” and marched straight from the pub.

Speaking of juveniles, have you seen this myspace page ? There’s a dozen more like it. I expect the same thing is happening on facebook, friendster, et al.

]]> By: Julien http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97634 Julien Wed, 02 May 2007 14:28:59 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97634 patrick: <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_This_09_f9_11_02_9d_74_e3_5b_d8_41_56_c5_63_56_88_c0_4#c6463822" rel="nofollow">this comment</a> really summed it up well. patrick: this comment really summed it up well.

]]> By: Julien http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97633 Julien Wed, 02 May 2007 14:25:07 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97633 patrick: yeah, when i wrote this, it was before the mob sort of forgot what the whole thing was about. :) what interested me was that users were banned without reason, and that the users responded to that by taking control. it really blew my mind. of course, by this morning as i write this, they've returned to talking about atheism and OS X. patrick: yeah, when i wrote this, it was before the mob sort of forgot what the whole thing was about. :)

what interested me was that users were banned without reason, and that the users responded to that by taking control. it really blew my mind.

of course, by this morning as i write this, they’ve returned to talking about atheism and OS X.

]]> By: hot-diggity » Bob Goyetche http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97607 hot-diggity » Bob Goyetche Wed, 02 May 2007 12:53:36 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97607 [...] Like I said on Julien’s post I don’t see it as a rebellion against digg per se, I see it as american kids finally realizing what laws like the DMCA can do to shut information down - this might be a watershed moment in the digital rights fight. Or, it was a bunch of 13 year olds doing a circle jerk.. [...] [...] Like I said on Julien’s post I don’t see it as a rebellion against digg per se, I see it as american kids finally realizing what laws like the DMCA can do to shut information down – this might be a watershed moment in the digital rights fight. Or, it was a bunch of 13 year olds doing a circle jerk.. [...]

]]> By: Bob Goyetche http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97597 Bob Goyetche Wed, 02 May 2007 12:25:37 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97597 I'd be willing to bet that a high percentage of the people who posted the numbers have no idea what to do with them. I did however get a few laughs out of the way people were posting the codes, ie: Here's a picture of my cat, and the picture would have these numbers all over a generic cat picture. I don't see it as a rebellion against digg per se, I see it as american kids finally realizing what laws like the DMCA can do to shut information down - this might be a watershed moment in the digital rights fight. Or, it was a bunch of 13 year olds doing a circle jerk.. Time will tell.. I’d be willing to bet that a high percentage of the people who posted the numbers have no idea what to do with them.

I did however get a few laughs out of the way people were posting the codes, ie: Here’s a picture of my cat, and the picture would have these numbers all over a generic cat picture.

I don’t see it as a rebellion against digg per se, I see it as american kids finally realizing what laws like the DMCA can do to shut information down – this might be a watershed moment in the digital rights fight. Or, it was a bunch of 13 year olds doing a circle jerk..

Time will tell..

]]> By: Patrick http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97590 Patrick Wed, 02 May 2007 12:04:37 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97590 You gain respect for the 13 year olds because they try to force a small company they "love" to expose itself to lawsuits that could push it out of business? I don't get what's so great about that. You gain respect for the 13 year olds because they try to force a small company they “love” to expose itself to lawsuits that could push it out of business? I don’t get what’s so great about that.

]]> By: Vero.b http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97578 Vero.b Wed, 02 May 2007 10:28:09 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97578 fyi, le lien vers le screenshot ne fonctionne pas. fyi, le lien vers le screenshot ne fonctionne pas.

]]> By: toine; » Blog Archive » Le chute de Digg.com http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97512 toine; » Blog Archive » Le chute de Digg.com Wed, 02 May 2007 04:24:37 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/massive-widespread-revolt-on-digg/#comment-97512 [...] Julien en parle, tout le monde en parle. [...] [...] Julien en parle, tout le monde en parle. [...]

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