Comments on: How to start talking (really this time) http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/ social capital, trust agents, all that jazz Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:27:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: IOYH - A Podsafe Hip Hop Podcast and Blog From Montreal, Canada » Conversation starters, not conversation pieces http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-11177 IOYH - A Podsafe Hip Hop Podcast and Blog From Montreal, Canada » Conversation starters, not conversation pieces Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:35:10 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-11177 [...] (Update: Part III of this idea is presented here.) [...] [...] (Update: Part III of this idea is presented here.) [...]

]]> By: Alexandre Lemieux http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-11077 Alexandre Lemieux Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:43:04 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-11077 Maybe a filter on top of del.icio.us that would filter-out entries that match some criteria, like a black list or something... Or a free service where you create a channel and let people easily enter URL of contents, a bit like a specialized del.icio.us where you could add stuff to other people's channels. And the owner of the account can edit and remove comments from his channel and even decide what are his policies regarding posts. Something like "friends only", "only people who have valid accounts", "everybody", "anonymous", etc. My 0.02$ CDN. Maybe a filter on top of del.icio.us that would filter-out entries that match some criteria, like a black list or something… Or a free service where you create a channel and let people easily enter URL of contents, a bit like a specialized del.icio.us where you could add stuff to other people’s channels. And the owner of the account can edit and remove comments from his channel and even decide what are his policies regarding posts. Something like “friends only”, “only people who have valid accounts”, “everybody”, “anonymous”, etc. My 0.02$ CDN.

]]> By: groundctrl http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-11076 groundctrl Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:44:04 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-11076 <strong>Alexandre:</strong> Yeah, we're working on that. The idea of comment spam is something we gotta take a look into, but comment spamming on blogs doesn't stop people from blogging. Likewise, we're doing it, and we'll figure out solutions as time goes on. Alexandre: Yeah, we’re working on that. The idea of comment spam is something we gotta take a look into, but comment spamming on blogs doesn’t stop people from blogging. Likewise, we’re doing it, and we’ll figure out solutions as time goes on.

]]> By: Alexandre Lemieux http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-11063 Alexandre Lemieux Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:04:42 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-11063 One little thing that concerns me is that this system allows anybody who wants to create audio spam comments to create a del.icio.us account and start tagging spam comments with the tags you are using. Even worst; since they are doing this on their account, you can't delete or filter them out. :-( One little thing that concerns me is that this system allows anybody who wants to create audio spam comments to create a del.icio.us account and start tagging spam comments with the tags you are using. Even worst; since they are doing this on their account, you can’t delete or filter them out. :-(

]]> By: The Public Service » decentralizing audio comments — walk through. http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10930 The Public Service » decentralizing audio comments — walk through. Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:26:27 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-10930 [...] More reading about this topic, can be found here, and here, and here, and lets not forget here. [...] [...] More reading about this topic, can be found here, and here, and here, and lets not forget here. [...]

]]> By: Steve http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10911 Steve Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:27:56 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-10911 I see what you mean. I was under the impression that it was the combination of two tags rather than a title. My bad. And I agree with <a href="http://inoveryourhead.net/2006/02/12/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10872" title="See comment above" rel="nofollow">mtl3p</a>, what I was describing was a "perfect world" scenario. But hey, I can always dream, right? I see what you mean. I was under the impression that it was the combination of two tags rather than a title. My bad.

And I agree with mtl3p, what I was describing was a “perfect world” scenario. But hey, I can always dream, right?

]]> By: mhp http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10909 mhp Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:08:48 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-10909 Steve, in general one word tags are best practice to use one word tags when you are "tagging". Here we are exploiting the tagging functionality for an expressly unique feed, so I purposefully broke convention to exclude any mp3s that someone may have tagged "podcast+conversations" (some IT Conversations podcasts are tagged that way, but are not a part of _this_ conversation. But say you had a thought (and recording) about "The Cartoons" or the Olympics or today's weather in your town, that would be best tagged like you said. Then subscribing to that feed would be akin to a plain del.icio.us feed or Technorati Mini, etc. but you'd get audio instead of text. As mtl3p notes in his audio comment at http://del.icio.us/tag/system:filetype:mp3+podcast_conversations+comment , the current infrastructure of using del.icio.us to tag the comments and generating the feed is not ideal (especially for ease of use). For example, it would be super if they could abstract ".../rss/tag/system:filetype:mp3+..." into ".../rss/tag/mp3/..." But it is currently the best (only?) tool for the task. Think back to the early days (a year ago) of podcasting, where people wrote their own scripts to pull podcasts and transfer them to their digital audio device. Those were cheap hacks to figure out what works, and what does not. Here, we are exploiting del.icio.us to be our cheap hack. Steve, in general one word tags are best practice to use one word tags when you are “tagging”. Here we are exploiting the tagging functionality for an expressly unique feed, so I purposefully broke convention to exclude any mp3s that someone may have tagged “podcast+conversations” (some IT Conversations podcasts are tagged that way, but are not a part of _this_ conversation.

But say you had a thought (and recording) about “The Cartoons” or the Olympics or today’s weather in your town, that would be best tagged like you said. Then subscribing to that feed would be akin to a plain del.icio.us feed or Technorati Mini, etc. but you’d get audio instead of text.

As mtl3p notes in his audio comment at http://del.icio.us/tag/system:filetype:mp3+podcast_conversations+comment , the current infrastructure of using del.icio.us to tag the comments and generating the feed is not ideal (especially for ease of use). For example, it would be super if they could abstract “…/rss/tag/system:filetype:mp3+…” into “…/rss/tag/mp3/…”

But it is currently the best (only?) tool for the task. Think back to the early days (a year ago) of podcasting, where people wrote their own scripts to pull podcasts and transfer them to their digital audio device. Those were cheap hacks to figure out what works, and what does not. Here, we are exploiting del.icio.us to be our cheap hack.

]]> By: mtl3p http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10872 mtl3p Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:31:21 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-10872 steve's right in terms of perfect world, but I think he's wrong in terms of usability. very clear explanation, julien. nicely done! (better than my last attempt) steve’s right in terms of perfect world, but I think he’s wrong in terms of usability.

very clear explanation, julien. nicely done! (better than my last attempt)

]]> By: Steve http://inoveryourhead.net/how-to-start-talking-really-this-time/#comment-10871 Steve Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:17:31 +0000 http://inoveryourhead.net/?p=378#comment-10871 I am probably being picky, but I don't think that you should be using dashes or underscores in a tag name. I have always thought of a tag as a one word entity. That is where its simplicity comes from. If you start mixing words together in a tag, you lose the ease inherent in the system. As an example: if I tag this comment as "AnnoyingComment", and someone else as "annoying-comment", and yet another as "Annoying_comment", you've lost the usefullness of tags. But if I tag it "Annoying" and "Comment", the two tags together form the tag cloud that best describes what I want. Just a thought. I am probably being picky, but I don’t think that you should be using dashes or underscores in a tag name. I have always thought of a tag as a one word entity. That is where its simplicity comes from. If you start mixing words together in a tag, you lose the ease inherent in the system.

As an example: if I tag this comment as “AnnoyingComment”, and someone else as “annoying-comment”, and yet another as “Annoying_comment”, you’ve lost the usefullness of tags. But if I tag it “Annoying” and “Comment”, the two tags together form the tag cloud that best describes what I want.

Just a thought.

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