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> <channel><title>Comments on: Don&#039;t let the (white) man get you down</title> <atom:link href="http://inoveryourhead.net/dont-let-the-white-man-get-you-down/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://inoveryourhead.net/dont-let-the-white-man-get-you-down/</link> <description>social capital, trust agents, all that jazz</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 10:23:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: jason</title><link>http://inoveryourhead.net/dont-let-the-white-man-get-you-down/#comment-31699</link> <dc:creator>jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inoveryourhead.net/dont-let-the-white-man-get-you-down/#comment-31699</guid> <description>what up, julien -been meaning to chime in on this for a while now...first off, i can&#039;t think of one black person that actually liked or watched Seinfeld.  not to say that they&#039;re not out there, but damned if i can find them.  and it wasn&#039;t even a question of &quot;where da brothers at?&quot; for me.  it was just that Seinfeld was a show about nothing.  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  how does a show about absolutely nothing become so damn popular?  i can&#039;t figure that out for the life of me.  perhaps i just can&#039;t appreciate Larry David&#039;s brand of humor (although i hear his other show - Curb Your Enthusiasm - is hysterical).if viewing habits between black and white have truly merged, it is probably because of the shows that make it to television and the makeup of the casts themselves.  for a good long while, you had that one black character in a sea of white faces, particularly with those &quot;pretty white kids with problems&quot; shows (stuff like Dawson&#039;s Creek, 7th Heaven, Gilmore Girls, or even something like Smallville - notice those were all from the same network?).  i do see that changing, though.  both Lost and particularly Gray&#039;s Anatomy come to mind.  good casts, great writing, and a diverse mix of people.honestly, i think there&#039;s an unspoken belief in TV Land that a predominantly black cast can&#039;t hold a national audience.  (granted, The Cosby Show shot major holes in that theory, but that was an extraordinary example from 20 freakin&#039; years ago...)  still, don&#039;t just throw black folk into the small screen on some mediocre show just because you think that&#039;s what i want.  screw that - we don&#039;t time for mediocrity.  the black experience is a multidimensional one.  and until brothers and sisters own the media avenues that distribute such content, it will be very difficult to see and witness...outside of those few well-written shows with diverse casts.  and those are still few and far between.as for hip-hop, that&#039;s something else.  why did hip-hop change?  because society changed.  and the neighborhoods that birthed this music changed as well, decaying from good to bad to worse.  Posdnous of De La Soul once suggested in URB Magazine that if the music seems out of control, it&#039;s because life is out of control.  &quot;Hip-hop has no choice but to follow,&quot; he lamented.  Mos Def would echo those same sentiments in his album opener &quot;Fear Not Of Man&quot; from *Black On Both Sides*:  &quot;if we smoked out, hip-hop gon&#039; be smoked out.  if we&#039;re doin&#039; alright, hip-hop will be doin&#039; alright.  so the next time you ask, &#039;where is hip-hop going?&#039;, ask yourself: where am i going?&quot;there of plenty of black folk that like 50 Cent and G-Unit, Young Jeezy, Fabolous, the Dipset crew, all those cats.  the heads i hang with could care less about them, and when they&#039;re not listening to something else that offers a relief from all that, they&#039;re creating their own music to fill the void.  still, there are some that can listen to Common and The Game and like both equally.  it&#039;s all relative to them.  I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.part of me wants to say that most white kids like 50 Cent and the like because that&#039;s what they expect of the genre, and if it&#039;s not that, then it&#039;s not authentic to them.  but of course, that&#039;s not the whole story.  your two-parter on &quot;how to keep 50 Cent from your kids&quot; proved that.  some brothers don&#039;t look beyond &quot;thug,&quot; if that&#039;s all they&#039;ve been exposed to.  and neither would anyone else.point blank:  what happened with hip-hop?  same thing that happened with funk, soul, jazz, and R&amp;B:  somebody other than its creators found out how to make money from it.  and it is these entities that call the shots and set the trends on Billboard charts and terrestrial radio, not the creators of the music and not the fans that understand the origins.  rest assured, the marketing of today&#039;s platinum rappers as new millennium minstrels is not Afrika Bambaataa&#039;s idea.yeah, i know:  preaching to the converted, aren&#039;t i?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what up, julien -</p><p>been meaning to chime in on this for a while now&#8230;</p><p>first off, i can&#8217;t think of one black person that actually liked or watched Seinfeld.  not to say that they&#8217;re not out there, but damned if i can find them.  and it wasn&#8217;t even a question of &#8220;where da brothers at?&#8221; for me.  it was just that Seinfeld was a show about nothing.  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  how does a show about absolutely nothing become so damn popular?  i can&#8217;t figure that out for the life of me.  perhaps i just can&#8217;t appreciate Larry David&#8217;s brand of humor (although i hear his other show &#8211; Curb Your Enthusiasm &#8211; is hysterical).</p><p>if viewing habits between black and white have truly merged, it is probably because of the shows that make it to television and the makeup of the casts themselves.  for a good long while, you had that one black character in a sea of white faces, particularly with those &#8220;pretty white kids with problems&#8221; shows (stuff like Dawson&#8217;s Creek, 7th Heaven, Gilmore Girls, or even something like Smallville &#8211; notice those were all from the same network?).  i do see that changing, though.  both Lost and particularly Gray&#8217;s Anatomy come to mind.  good casts, great writing, and a diverse mix of people.</p><p>honestly, i think there&#8217;s an unspoken belief in TV Land that a predominantly black cast can&#8217;t hold a national audience.  (granted, The Cosby Show shot major holes in that theory, but that was an extraordinary example from 20 freakin&#8217; years ago&#8230;)  still, don&#8217;t just throw black folk into the small screen on some mediocre show just because you think that&#8217;s what i want.  screw that &#8211; we don&#8217;t time for mediocrity.  the black experience is a multidimensional one.  and until brothers and sisters own the media avenues that distribute such content, it will be very difficult to see and witness&#8230;outside of those few well-written shows with diverse casts.  and those are still few and far between.</p><p>as for hip-hop, that&#8217;s something else.  why did hip-hop change?  because society changed.  and the neighborhoods that birthed this music changed as well, decaying from good to bad to worse.  Posdnous of De La Soul once suggested in URB Magazine that if the music seems out of control, it&#8217;s because life is out of control.  &#8220;Hip-hop has no choice but to follow,&#8221; he lamented.  Mos Def would echo those same sentiments in his album opener &#8220;Fear Not Of Man&#8221; from *Black On Both Sides*:  &#8220;if we smoked out, hip-hop gon&#8217; be smoked out.  if we&#8217;re doin&#8217; alright, hip-hop will be doin&#8217; alright.  so the next time you ask, &#8216;where is hip-hop going?&#8217;, ask yourself: where am i going?&#8221;</p><p>there of plenty of black folk that like 50 Cent and G-Unit, Young Jeezy, Fabolous, the Dipset crew, all those cats.  the heads i hang with could care less about them, and when they&#8217;re not listening to something else that offers a relief from all that, they&#8217;re creating their own music to fill the void.  still, there are some that can listen to Common and The Game and like both equally.  it&#8217;s all relative to them.  I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.</p><p>part of me wants to say that most white kids like 50 Cent and the like because that&#8217;s what they expect of the genre, and if it&#8217;s not that, then it&#8217;s not authentic to them.  but of course, that&#8217;s not the whole story.  your two-parter on &#8220;how to keep 50 Cent from your kids&#8221; proved that.  some brothers don&#8217;t look beyond &#8220;thug,&#8221; if that&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve been exposed to.  and neither would anyone else.</p><p>point blank:  what happened with hip-hop?  same thing that happened with funk, soul, jazz, and R&amp;B:  somebody other than its creators found out how to make money from it.  and it is these entities that call the shots and set the trends on Billboard charts and terrestrial radio, not the creators of the music and not the fans that understand the origins.  rest assured, the marketing of today&#8217;s platinum rappers as new millennium minstrels is not Afrika Bambaataa&#8217;s idea.</p><p>yeah, i know:  preaching to the converted, aren&#8217;t i?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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